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This is a recent comment from my post “Witnessing to Homosexuals”:

you people are freaking idiots. you call yourself christians, yet here you are judging all of these people? since when did [G]od give you the right for that. i came upon this site by accident while looking for inspirational videos, and quickly became disgusted after watching several of them. i myself am a christian, but i have humility and class about it. the bible is not historical document, its a book written as a guideline of how man should carry himself in this twisted backwards world.

[G]od is not here to scare us all into line, or to make sure that every man follows “the path” he wants us to make mistakes, and hopefully through those mistakes we find who we are.

i know that by making these statements i am no better than you evangelist a——-, but it really p—– me off to watch “christian” people act like you are better than your brothers and sisters o this planet. it is not your job to tell the athiest professor that he is wrong. maybe that works for him. he seems to be a genuinely good guy. and hes living a life the way our [G]od would be proud of. it sickens me that some of the best christians arent even christian, and you people are definately not any of them.

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  1. Thomas Moore

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    You will know them by there fruits! (Matthew 7:15-20) It does not sound like this was written by a person who is a christian, at least not how the Bible describes a follower of Christ. From reading this it looks like to me this person needs to ask the Holy Spirit to check their heart! To be tested to see if they’re in the faith (2 Cor. 13:5). It is something as followers of Christ that we all need to do on a regular basis. May God grant this person repentance and salvation in the only hope, Jesus Christ!

    -Thomas

  3. johnny hopkins

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    oh shut the —- up you —-!! i absolutely am christian. im methodist, very methodist. i dont read the bible like its 100% fact. it was written two thousand years ago. i take it like its meant to be taken… again its a guideline so man can see how he should cary himself. and like i knew you evangelical morons would you couldnt even look at the point of my comment you were too busy pointing out my flaws. you people need to stop judging the “nonbelievers” they outnumber you by the billions, and realize that our GOD isnt the way you percieve him to be. hes not on anyones side!! he gave us this universe to make a life of our own not to fear him. and if you dont believe me look around its pretty obvious.

    oh and i dont need your blessing, i know when my actions are in question. however its sad that you dont. may GOD grant you repentence for all your naivety and stupidity. seriously people go be productive members of society and do someting with yourselves, im 17 and im lightyears ahead of you morons.

    im —— german and lebanese! i think your heritage as a retard will be guestioned.

  4. Garrett

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    Delete that other post. Had some phone issues.

    Johnny, you ain’t too bright, so you probably didn’t catch my subtle reference to No True Scotsman. Esentially, that the Christians here will accuse you of not really being Christian.

    Seeing as how you’re a little jerk…I’d say you’ll fit right in with the rest of these Christians.

  5. Dennis Liebregt

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    Hi Johnny

    ” i myself am a christian, but i have humility and class about it ”
    And then you call Bible believing christians “morons” a little later on?
    Real classy dude.

    My first reaction was to laugh at your post which quickly turned to grief.

    We run into your type all the time. And it grieves me everytime. If there is anything discouraging to me when I go evangelizing, is to talk to someone that claims to be “christian” and then in the next sentence completely shows themselves to be a false convert at best.

    Johnny I am not going to beat around the bush. You are not a christian.
    Your 2 emails make that very clear. And by the way that is said with love and concern. If you were to die tonight you would be going to a place called Hell and that should concern you (it does me)
    Too bad you don’t believe in the Bible should you open your “guide” it will tell you all about this place called Hell and how to avoid going there.
    I encourage you to keep reading your “guide” and maybe try obeying what it says? It talks all about repentance and faith and trust in Jesus Christ maybe if you pray for God to take away the blinders you can one see it for yourself? Suggest you start in the Gospel of John.

    Dennis

  6. Thomas Moore

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    Johnny from what is coming out of your month you can call yourself christian all day long but your fruits tell a different story. I just want you to know, that’s all. There is a lot of anger and hatred that seems to be coming from you.

    johnny said, “i dont read the bible like its 100% fact. it was written two thousand years ago.”

    This is not a position a “christian” or a follower of Jesus Christ would take towards God’s word. That’s not how “Christians” for the thousands upon thousands of years the Bible has existed have believe about the Bible. Just to let you know.

    johnny said, “i take it like its meant to be taken… again its a guideline so man can see how he should cary himself.”

    To carry oneself the way you are carrying yourself from your posts?

    johnny said, “you people need to stop judging the “nonbelievers” they outnumber you by the billions”

    Ok, but this does not change the fact of the truth. No matter how many people do not believe the truth, the truth does not change. No matter how much people don’t want to believe in gravity it does not change the fact that if we jump off a building we will go splat on the ground.
    Also Jesus did teach we are to judge but we are to judge the correct way. There is a right way to judge. In this new post and in your earlier post you speak on not judging. You are probably thinking of Matthew 7:1-5. But as we know it is impossible not to judge because the fact is johnny with the post you posted you are judging me. Jesus teaches in Matthew 7:1-6 that judging should be reserved for God and that is of course true. But Jesus also acknowledges that we will judge and that when we do so we must do it with humility and love. Remembering that our ability to judge is limited and that one day we (sinful people) will stand before a righteous God who will judge us perfectly. That’s a first step in understanding the issue on judging. I pray that helps a little.

    johnny said, “hes [God] not on anyones side!!

    Your right God is not on anyones side, but we need to ask the question, are we on God’s side?

    johnny said, “he gave us this universe to make a life of our own not to fear him.”

    This statement totally goes against what the Bible teaches over and over again that we ARE to fear God. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom (Psalm 111:10 and many, many other passages).

    johnny, “seriously people go be productive members of society and do someting with yourselves, im 17 and im lightyears ahead of you morons.”

    Such humility and understanding being given here. I have a job (work at a grocery store) have a wife and two children and am going to school. What is the definition of a productive member of society? Johnny you are only 17? I can admit that when I was 17 (now 29) that I can truly say I was far from being smart (I think I have come along way now [with God’s help] but there is always more room to learn and grow). But maybe you are so far ahead of everybody else we can‘t even grasp at your intellect.

    Please remember though that though we broke the Ten Commandments (we‘ve all told a lie at some point, taken something that does not belong to us (a thief), taken God‘s name in vain (blasphemy) and/or hated someone and committed murder in our heart), Jesus Christ has paid the fine through his life’s blood. His death on the cross along with his resurrection sealed satan’s and death’s defeat. We are guilty in God’s courtroom (that’s hell for eternity), but Jesus settled the fine to give us heaven for eternity. Now Jesus commands all people to repent and put their trust in Jesus to save them. Please do that today and God will grant you eternal life by forgiving your sins. Not because of me, not because of you, but because of Him and who He is. A God that gives us what we do not deserve. Eternal life. Please repent and trust Jesus. Today is the day of salvation.

  8. johnny hopkins

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    yeah well not for me. when i said i was a christian, i was using the term too lightly. i myself am not a christian per say, i have grown up in a christian family, and have ben taught in the faith, but i dont take Gods teachings so literally. i promise you that the christian faith is not the only correct one, but rather it is one of many that make up our world. i believe that there is a God, but not your God, or my God, or even any of our gods. he gives us what you have noticed i like to call guide lines that i believe through living within these guide lines we are doing Gods will. i break it down into a few components. loving our neighbors, being decent and kind people, and not judging others rather we should judge ourselves. because these things are all that we can worry about as human beings.

    i do not fear God or what may happen to me in the afterlife. i dont have any reason too. if God is there then i dont believe he is there to make our lives miserable. i embrace life and everything that comes with it, but i will not spend the short time i have to be alive and free fearing a being that i cant even begin to comprehend. if youre trying to tell me that through the things that i have done in my thoughts that i have committed murder i refuse to believe that. and because ive said —— it im a blasphemist i refuse to believe that too. there are too many imperfections in this world for us to fear these little things.

    i pray every day that one day i will wake up and be sure that God exists, but i cant wait on that. ive got too much going for me, and to much to live in the here and the now for. the only thing i fear is that when im laying on my death bed that i wont be able to look back and know that everything ive done was done with 100% of my effort, and that i lived a life with absolutly no fear. like i said im 17. i won a state championship in football last year as a quarterback, and im looking to repeat this year. the hardest decision i have to make is if i want to go to USC or Texas. i made straight A’s taking all AP courses in one of the toughest curriculums in the nation. and i truly have accomplished this all on my own. my parrents died when i was 8, and i live with my uncle who cant wait to get rid of me. but at this point in my life i might just be the most greatful and happiest people on the planet. i attribute all of this to the fact that i have lived my life within the guidelines, and proven that i can make a difference for the good in this world. the only reason i have been so rude and angry is because the evangelist people sicken me to the core of my being. everyone knows what youre going to say before it even comes out, and still no one wants to hear it. you tell everyone how they should live, and what they should believe. thats a bunch of BS. you havnt earned the right to do that. no one on this planet has the right to do that.

    so in your next response please dont fill the lines with bunch of psycho babble bull, i dont need it. its not gonna work. dont tell me to repent im not going to do it. im a different bread of human, one that as William Golding once said who does not follow the heard of cows as they graze. i am a grade one tinker, and unfortnately for you i can form my own opinions and beliefs. i am in individual not one of the masses. so again save your speech for someone else, and dont tell me im going to hell, because if im goin then youre sure as hell comin with.

  9. Bizzle

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    Thomas Moore said:

    we have all…taken something that does not belong to us (a thief), ”

    Not everyone has done that.

  10. Thomas Moore

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    Thank you johnny for your honesty. It is sad to see the road you are going down. Please heed what other followers of Christ and I have said. Read the Gospel of John with a humble heart. Read it for yourself. Please read the below verses at least once.

    “But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.” Romans 2:5

    “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16

    “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promises, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9

    “We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.” 2 Cor. 5:20

    God bless,

    Thomas

  11. SeedSowerJoy

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    Bizzle,

    Re: your comment about”Thomas Moore said ‘we have all teken something that does not belong to us (stealing)’ “……….

    Many people act as though GOD’S commandment, “thout shall not steal” includes the words “unless it is ‘just a _________(pencil, cookie, or something they consider small and inconsequential.)

    How many people do you know who can honestly say that they have never done any of the following:

    Made a personal phone call during work hours, using the telephone service and time, paid for by your employer?

    Taken work time to: Checked / write and send personal email; wasted work time playing Solitaire; surfed the internet, using internet service and time paid for by your employer?

    Made copies or faxed personal item?.

    Taken an orange from the tree in the neighbors yard without their permission

    Taken home office supplies because “it’s JUST a pen” from work?

    Borrowed an item, but never returned it?

    Had someone loan you money and say, “just pay me back when you can” – and, years later, still not paid them back or, conveniently, “forgotten about the loan?

    There are far more people who are guilty of at least one of the above items (or something similar), which most people tell themselves “isn’t really STEALING”, than those who have never done any of those things.
    Stealing is stealing, regardless of the value of the item and we are all easily tempted by these (among many other) situations.

  12. Garrett

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    And that’s worth eternal torture. If God was a man, he’d be seen as a terrible tyrant. No sane court just stacks a bunch of minor offenses together and sentences based on that. Heck, human justice at least TRIES to get criminal ASAP, instead of sitting back and waiting a literal lifetime. Human justice ain’t omnipotent, neither.

    • Steve Sanchez

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      From Douglas Groothuis of the Christian Research Institute: The Doctrine of Hell.

      The doctrine of hell does not stand alone as a kind of ancient Christian horror story. Rather, hell is inseparable from three other interrelated biblical truths: human sin, God’s holiness, and the cross of Christ.

      In a relativistic culture, the very concept of sin must be elucidated and defended vigorously. If morality is relative to each person, then there is no higher moral standard one can meet or break. But as C. S. Lewis argued in Mere Christianity and The Abolition of Man, the idea of an objective moral law is inescapable. When we are snubbed or exploited, we call out for justice. When we encounter people of grit and grace, we praise them as moral examples. Our conscience is more than mere instinct or social conditioning. Yet because there is often a great gap between our ideals and actions, we suffer guilt and regret. Despite our denials and excuses, our consciences dog us throughout our days.

      Christianity explains the global stain of human guilt by placing it in a theological framework that both sharpens its sting and makes relief possible. Sin is a moral condition that offends the holy God and removes us from His approval.

      While much modern psychology assures us that guilt can be gutted through humanistic methods, the Gospel faces the problem head-on. Guilt is real because we have violated the standards of goodness. Left to ourselves, we can do nothing to undo our wrongs. Forgiving ourselves is never sufficient because we are in no position to exonerate the guilty party — anymore than a murderer can grant himself or herself a stay of execution.

      Lawbreakers deserve punishment. But is hell too extreme? The great American theologian Jonathan Edwards took this question up in his essay, “The Justice of God in the Damnation of Sinners.” Edwards argued that because God is “a Being of infinite greatness, majesty, and glory,” He is therefore “infinitely honorable” and worthy of absolute obedience. “Sin against God, being a violation of infinite obligations, must be a crime infinitely heinous, and deserving of infinite punishment.”

      Edwards’s much maligned but solidly biblical sermon, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God,” presses home the point that without Christ we have no grounds for confidence and every reason to fear hell. God, who is angry with sin, could justifiably send the unrepentant sinner to hell at any moment. Jesus Himself warned, “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matt. 10:28).

      To fathom the horror of sin and the holiness of God we must kneel before the cross of Christ. While the Scriptures command us to be like Christ, this is never presented as the basis of our salvation. Christ’s sinless perfection is impossible for us to attain, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). Because Jesus flawlessly obeyed God’s moral law in our place, He is uniquely qualified to be our Savior. On the cross, Christ offered Himself to the Father as a spotless sacrifice for our sin.

  13. Garrett

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    Well that was lame.

    Just because God is infinitely good does not mean he would evil is suddenly magnified to him and thus worth punishing extra just because. It’s a contradiction: you cannot be pure good and yet torment people equally regardless of crime. A judge that did that would be seen as EVIL, not incredibly moral.

  14. Bizzle

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    SeedsowerJoy,

    Not arguing that those things can all be considered stealing, but again

    1) Not everyone has done those things
    2) What if you borrow something and don’t return it because you honestly forgot you had it? Is that stealing? Was there intent to steal?

  16. Bizzle

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    Johnny Hopkins, I assume that you are going under an assumed name? I happen to be a football fan and I looked you up in recruiting reports and the name Johnny Hopkins, QB from CA doesn’t come up anywhere.

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