Destinations: Day of Silence, Huntington Pier

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Friday, April 16: Combat the gay, lesbian, transgender,  and bi-sexual sponsored Day of Silence at various high schools in California by preaching the Truth outside your local school during the lunch break or after school.

Don’t engage in the “Is homosexuality wrong?” debate; just preach the Law and Gospel. If someone wants to know what the bible says about homosexuality, hand them a bible with the particular passages highlighted, then ask them to read it. For another strategy on this day click here.

Saturday, April 17: Evangelism Adventure @ Huntington Pier with Ray Comfort. Meet at Hope Chapel at noon, eat pizza, pray and then go out to share our faith. We leave promptly at 12:30 PM, returning by 5:30 PM.

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Read what happened when we were harassed by angry, crazy, wacko, rent-a-bike dudes at the first Ambassadors’ Academy on the Huntington Pier below.

Revenge of the Rickshaws

It was horrible. Awful. Stomach-churning. I wanted to turn my head to avoid the tragedy that was destined to happen. I didn’t. But what I witnessed, no man should ever see…

The persecution took place at Huntington Beach during the last day of training at the Ambassadors’ Academy, a new evangelism boot camp of Living Waters, while one member of the team I was leading, Neil Collins, got on the “soapbox” to preach.

Launching into a powerful sermon, the two or three gathered to hear him preach were almost moved to tears. Read the rest of this exciting story by clicking here!

Comments (21)

  1. ExPatMatt

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    Steve,

    “Combat the gay, lesbian, transgender, and bi-sexual sponsored Day of Silence…”

    Interesting choice of words there, Steve. The Day of Silence is supposed to shine a light on the Huge number of GLTB students who suffer bullying and abuse in silence because they’re too scared/intimidated to speak out about it. Why would you want to ‘combat’ that?

    I get that you want to take any opportunity possible to preach the Gospel, and that’s fine, but why ‘combat’ something that is intended to reduce the incidents of bullying (something that often leads to suicide) in schools?

    Again, I’ve no problem with you preaching or discussing what the Bible has to say about homosexuality, I just don’t see why you’re taking a combative approach to something that is trying to protect children from harm.

    Perhaps it was just a bit of careless wording?

    Cheers,

  2. Nohm

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    Matt, I noticed the exact same thing with the use of the word “Combat”.

    I’ll also note that later, in this same post, Steve complains about being harassed. In other words, the same thing he plans to do to school children, if I was to take the word “Combat” seriously.

    But, I know I know, it’s a joke and where’s my sense of humor. 😉

  3. Steve Sanchez

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    Hey Guys,

    My choice of words was carefully chosen. I want to “combat” the political message that is the true agenda.

    Did you read the first link I provided? I’m totally against any bullying, as any Christian would be, but there’s more to this day than just that message. Here’s an excerpt from that first link:

    But a closer look at the materials being distributed to educators and students shows there is more than an anti-bullying message being pushed.

    For example, GLSEN’s data sheet for kids called “How to Get What You Want—With an Ask!” encourages students to use the Day of Silence to get a “queer-friendly prom,” as well as homosexual-themed books and teacher trainings in their schools.

    Teachers are encouraged to discuss the Day of Silence with their students and observe five minutes of silence in the classroom as a show of solidarity.

    Candi Cushman, education analyst for Focus on the Family, said the event turns kids into political lobbyists for GLSEN’s adult-driven agenda.

    “We agree that every student should be protected from bullying and harassment,” she said, “and that no student should be hurt or ridiculed, no matter who they are or what they believe. But parents need to be aware that the Day of Silence unnecessarily politicizes and sexualizes the school environment, paving the way for classroom lessons that advocate and normalize things like same-sex marriage and cross-dressing.”


    Our evangelistic purpose is to “combat” GLSEN’s sexual indoctrination.

    Our goal is not to harass anyone, but to proclaim the truth in a gracious, loving way.

    No joking.

  4. Nohm

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    Steve,

    I’m going to ask a very important question. Did you actually ever read or look at the “How to Get What You Want—With an Ask!” data sheet?

    My guess is a resounding “no”, because this article does a hefty amount of spin.

    1. The “queer-friendly” prom thing was simply a quote in the sidebar, and it seemed pretty clear to me that by “queer-friendly” they mean “Steve’s not out front the door, checking IDs to make sure none of them say ‘GAY'”

    Seriously… how do schools expect to keep gay students out of the prom? Even if they prevent them from bringing same-sex dates, are you expecting the teachers to be walking around, making sure no ladies are dancing with other ladies? And I don’t know how it is when you were younger, Steve, but straight girls in my high school had no problems dancing with each other… better than sweaty high school boys. Do you expect someone to make sure none of those women are gay?

    2. Anyways, on to the “encourages students to use the Day of Silence to get … homosexual-themed books and teacher trainings in their schools. claim. What the data sheet actually says is this:

    “PREPARE! GET THE FACTS! Who needs to know about and support your “ask?” What research do you need to do? If you want a better library, what books do you want and whom should you talk to in order to get that? If you want a teacher training, what things and topics do you want included?”

    So… how is that any different from something a Christian Family group would send out? I’m on quite a few mailing lists, and I get stuff like this all the time, only it’s far more blatant.

    Note that at no point does it refer to “homosexual-themed books”, and it doesn’t suggest any particular topics for teacher training… in fact, it asks the reader (as you see above) to figure that out.

    So, credulity again wins over research here at stonethepreacher.com .

    Go on Christian soldiers, and fight that fight against imagined sexual indoctrination. At a high school. This certainly will paint you in the best light possible.

    C’mon! I’m joking! 🙂

  5. Nohm

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    To be clear, I’m not a part of the GLSEN, nor had I ever heard of them, or the Day of Silence, until today.

    I simply just looked stuff up to compare the claims in the article to the actual data sheet.

    This is not difficult.

  6. Nohm

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    Actually, I’m now very much curious, because I realize that I might have assumed far too much about your opinion on the matter, so I’ll retroactively ask:

    What do the words “queer-friendly prom” mean to you?

  7. Steve Sanchez

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    You may want to look at a document called “The Innocence Report”:
    http://www.preserveinnocence.org/docs/PI%20Report%2010-09.pdf

    I’m concerned with the social engineering, especially detailed on Pgs. 8-10.

    And, as a matter of fact, i did read the “How to get…ask” doc. The first paragraph clearly states what they want in opposition to what you say, including how to get a more LGBT inclusive library, teacher training, etc.

    Since these are elementary schools and high schools, I oppose the redefining of what a family is, what a marriage is. The social indoctrination is very real, very subtle and very dangerous.

    Now, how do I feel about LGBT people? I love them. Please read my article on the Prop 8 debate awhile back: https://stonethepreacher.com/2008/11/06/the-not-so-great-prop-8-debate.html

    Thanks!

  8. Nohm

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    “You may want to look at a document called “The Innocence Report””

    Short version of the report: “Just like Steve, we think we know how others think with out mind-reading abilities, and these others have a sinister secret agenda for our children oh just think of the children, and this is in no way projection nope nuh-uh not at all.”

    This claim of “social indoctrination” is both (mostly) imagined and an embarrassing bit of projection.

    Also, “LGBT inclusive” is in no way the same as “homosexual-themed”. C’mon now. When America started to allow African-Americans to drink from the same water fountains as whites, did those fountains somehow suddenly become “black-themed”?

    No. Because that’s silly.

    Look, I’m not supporting this GLSEN group; I would need to see a lot more of their materials. But I also know spin and bull manure when I read it.

    Regardless, I still support your right to free speech, and to spread the Gospel, as long as you don’t infringe on the rights of others.

    Lastly, I’ll note that the “Innocence Report”, like many religious paranoid-projection warnings of its nature, seems to think that every child is on the brink of losing their religion.

    An example of this is on page 8 of the “report”:

    “The workshop continues with the teacher exhibiting gender-based words and phrases associated with transgendered individuals. The students then go to the front of the room and write their understanding and thoughts about the word or phrase. This could unduly pressure the child to reject her beliefs out of a feeling of a need to conform.”

    So… that’s all it takes to make a kid backslide? Wanting to be popular? By writing their thoughts about gender-based words associated with trannies?

    Really?

  9. Nohm

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    I’m an idiot.

    The second paragraph above should instead be:

    Short version of the report: “Just like Steve, we think we know how others think with our mind-reading abilities, and these others have a sinister secret agenda for our children oh just think of the children, and this is in no way projection nope nuh-uh not at all.”

  10. ExPatMatt

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    Steve,

    There’s no ‘sexual indoctrination’ going on.

    Some kids are gay. Some kids self-identify as the opposite sex. Some kids have two mums/dads. That’s just the way it is.

    These kids are in the minority and they have, until very recently, been mercilessly bullied by the ‘normal’ kids because their personal and/or family life is different to the norm.

    This is only beginning to change because of the work of organizations like GLSEN.

    What GLSEN are trying to do get the ‘normal’ kids to respect that not everyone is like them.

    This is no different to a lesson plan in an all-white school that explains that there are different-coloured people around the world. Or a lesson plan in a Catholic school that explains the many different religions of the world.

    I know dozens of LGBT people and every single one of them was bullied – horrendously – throughout school, for being different.

    How would you suggest this trend be prevented? What kind of school programs would you recommend to encourage children to be more tolerant and inclusive of others that are different?
    Because, from what I’ve seen, advocacy programs like this actually do make a difference in reducing bullying and ensuring that every child – no matter what their orientation – receives not only a good education, but a healthy respect for the diversity of human life.

    Now could you please actually answer the question Nohm asked?

    Cheers,

    • Steve Sanchez

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      EPM said: How would you suggest this trend be prevented? What kind of school programs would you recommend to encourage children to be more tolerant and inclusive of others that are different?

      Answer:Allow the Gospel to be proclaimed within the classroom. Allow classroom prayer in the name of Jesus. In short, a return to our Christian roots.

      Nohm asked: What do the words “queer-friendly prom” mean to you?

      My answer: To allow gays into the prom without bullying.

      More discussion later. Out of time! Thanks!

  11. Nohm

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    “Allow the Gospel to be proclaimed within the classroom. Allow classroom prayer in the name of Jesus. In short, a return to our Christian roots.”

    Ok, so maybe I’m a bit slow, but how exactly would that prevent bullying? Did bullying simply not exist back in the days of teacher-led school prayer in the name of Jesus?

    Also, what exactly do you mean by “allow classroom prayer”? Is it your current understanding that children are unable to prayer in the name of Jesus in a classroom? If so, why is this your understanding?

    Lastly, if you think that “queer-friendly prom” means “prom without bullying gay kids”, then why would citizenlink.org have a problem with that?

  12. ExPatMatt

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    “Allow the Gospel to be proclaimed within the classroom. Allow classroom prayer in the name of Jesus. In short, a return to our Christian roots.”

    In other words; Christian Theocracy. And you wonder why people take a strong stance against religious influence in the US!

    Do you seriously think that ‘proclaiming the Gospel’ in classrooms is going to magically stop kids from bullying gay/trans kids?

    If anything, the bullies will be armed with religious ammo. It’s not just; “You’re different so I’m going to punch you” it’s going to be; “My God thinks you’re an abomination so I’m going to stone you!”

    That’s your plan for preventing bullying at school? Wow.

    Nohm asked: What do the words “queer-friendly prom” mean to you?

    “My [Steve’s] answer: To allow gays into the prom without bullying.”

    and you think this is something that needs combating, why exactly?

    Cheers,

  13. Nohm

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    One more thing about this quote:

    “Allow the Gospel to be proclaimed within the classroom. Allow classroom prayer in the name of Jesus. In short, a return to our Christian roots.”

    What this appears to me, Steve, is that you’re against GLSEN’s indoctrination, because it interferes with your intended indoctrination.

  14. Steve Sanchez

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    Wow! So many questions so little time… and it’s so simple, really. The problem is our worldviews. Nohm, EPM, you obviouslyy have a secular worldview, mine, of course, Christian. Yes. I do see it as indoctrination. I believe in the traditional family and these alternative lifestyles sinful and a horrible temptation for the youth. So I will vehemently, yet graciously and lovingly stand for what I know is right, as prescribed biblically. Will I convince you? No. You cannot be convinced because you are “part of this world.” I, too, would wholeheartedly agree with you if I wasn’t a Christian, so I understand your objections to my view.

    Nohm wrote:

    Ok, so maybe I’m a bit slow, but how exactly would that prevent bullying? Did bullying simply not exist back in the days of teacher-led school prayer in the name of Jesus?

    When one becomes a Christian, one becomes more loving. Bullying is out of the question. Of course bullying always existed.

    Also, what exactly do you mean by “allow classroom prayer”? Is it your current understanding that children are unable to prayer in the name of Jesus in a classroom? If so, why is this your understanding?

    I’m talking about teacher-led prayer. Let’s invite Him into the classroom. Crazy idea, I know.

    Lastly, if you think that “queer-friendly prom” means “prom without bullying gay kids”, then why would citizenlink.org have a problem with that?

    The issue isn’t bullying, no one has a problem with preventing bullying. While it is a significant issue, I see it being a Trojan horse to prevent dissent while promoting a homosexual agenda.

    EPM wrote: In other words; Christian Theocracy. And you wonder why people take a strong stance against religious influence in the US!

    Do you seriously think that ‘proclaiming the Gospel’ in classrooms is going to magically stop kids from bullying gay/trans kids?

    Not magically. But as kids and teachers turn to Christ, their lives and attitudes change—for the better.

    Nohm wrote: One more thing about this quote:

    “Allow the Gospel to be proclaimed within the classroom. Allow classroom prayer in the name of Jesus. In short, a return to our Christian roots.”

    What this appears to me, Steve, is that you’re against GLSEN’s indoctrination, because it interferes with your intended indoctrination.

    If my “indoctrination” is defined as preserving the traditional family, then yes.

    Thanks guys!

  15. Nohm

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    Hi Steve,

    I understand that you want to “preserve the traditional family”, although that can mean all sorts of different things. Regardless, I wasn’t arguing that point.

    You wrote: “If my “indoctrination” is defined as preserving the traditional family, then yes.”

    No, I was defining it as “getting teacher-led prayers back in the classrooms, aimed at indoctrinating children to your religious views”.

    What if the teacher doesn’t want to? What if a parent doesn’t want teacher-led prayer for their child? But, most importantly:

    Which sect’s prayer do you plan on using, or will each teacher get to choose?

  16. Nohm

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    “I believe in the traditional family and these alternative lifestyles sinful and a horrible temptation for the youth.”

    So, would you agree with the Innocence Report that kids can be so easily distracted, from their repentance and overwhelming gratitude about being saved from God’s wrath because Jesus died for their sins, by the fear of losing school status and popularity due to thinking negatively about tranny pronouns?

    Again, really? Don’t you think someone here is blowing the situation out of proportion?

    Seriously Steve, remember how you were back then. How would you have reacted?

  17. Nohm

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    Whoa whoa whoa whoa…

    I finally just caught on right now, and why I’ve been confused.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but do you think that children can be indoctrinated, at a school, into being gay or changing their gender?

  19. BathTub

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    Oh, the Traditional Family….. Like? David? Solomon? Abraham? Jacob perhaps?

  20. perdita

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    What I love most about the CitizenLink article is that it condemns turning “kids into political lobbyists for GLSEN’s adult-driven agenda.” and, at the same time, encourages turning kids into political lobbyists for themselves (Day of Truth, by Exodus International).

    “One alternative would be to allow kids to participate in the Day of Truth on Thursday.

    The Day of Truth is sponsored by Exodus International and promotes a respectful dialogue among students on the issue of homosexuality. This year’s theme is “Get the Conversation Started.”

    lol- Now, you do realize that Day of Silence is student-led, not school-led. So, if there aren’t any students wanting to participate, it doesn’t happen.

    I’m talking about teacher-led prayer. Let’s invite Him into the classroom. Crazy idea, I know.

    Steve, I don’t think you would want me to lead prayer… Hey, if I couldn’t lead prayer in your public school, would I be able to teach?

    When one becomes a Christian, one becomes more loving. Bullying is out of the question. Of course bullying always existed.

    Aren’t you the guy that yells outside of open-air restaurants and preaches in elevators?

    Nohm asked: What do the words “queer-friendly prom” mean to you?

    (Steve’s) answer: To allow gays into the prom without bullying.

    Didn’t you just say you were against bullying?

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