A Compelling Evolution Video

Dec 1, 2009Steve Sanchez14 CommentsFamous Lost Words, Video/Audio

I have to admit, after watching this video, I’m almost convinced that the theory of evolution is true. Wow! You won’t believe it, Good Christian, but this pretty much confirms Darwinism as fact.

Who am I to argue with tangible, solid evidence?

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BathTub
December 1, 2009
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Oh I know, shall I watch an episode of Big Love and say ‘Hey that Christianity thing looks kinda convincing.’?
Do you have any references saying ‘this is an accurate representation of the science?’ as opposed to ‘just one of the many gags the Simpsons have opened their show with? In this case the outdated ladder of progress montage’
It may surprise you to know that nothing in the science says Mr Burns was an Octopus, or Bart was a Tyrannosaur, Lisa a Stegosaurus, etc.
Shocking I know.
BathTub
December 1, 2009
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Actually on second thoughts, it certainly a lot better than most Creationists depictions of ‘Evolution’. It doesn’t need to pretend that The Big Bang, or the birth of the milky way, or our star,solar system and planet have anything to do with it.
Or that it has anything to do with refuting or proving God.
So in that sense it’s certainly a more accurate representation that either you or Peter have presented on this blog recently.
Steve Sanchez
December 1, 2009
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You know, Ray Comfort is right when he says that atheist/evolutionists have no sense of humor. C’mon, that was a funny video, no?
The sad part is, any “progressive” ideas in the evolution realm are not too far off base from this video. Both are absurd. This one, though, is far more amusing.
ExPatMatt
December 1, 2009
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Steve,
I’m sure BathTub found the video funny when it first aired (as did I) years and years ago.
What’s not so funny is your accompanying text, bolstered now by your comment; it’s the intent to ridicule without actually understanding what it is you’re ridiculing that most of us heathens find odd.
Do you get that? It’s not that we don’t find the video funny, it’s your use of it that’s not so funny.
Incidentally, it was on this very blog, this very week, that someone (Val, I think) presented the banana ‘tab’ as evidence of design while Ray Comfort was saying it was all just a joke and atheists should get a sense of humour.
So, you see, you guys are so absurd, so often, that it is honestly difficult to tell when you are being serious and when you are being ‘humorous’.
When you demonstrate that you actually understand what the theory of evolution says, then you might be able to effectively satirize it. Until then, you’re just going to come off as childish and unfunny; as you do here.
Regards,
Steve Sanchez
December 1, 2009
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Thanks ExPatMatt. I appreciate your heart and sentiment. I believe that you are very sincere in your beliefs, and unlike most of the atheists who have commented (see the YouTube comments), you are quite friendly.
Still, to believe that nothing created everything apart from God, is ridiculous. Has life been replicated yet… out of nothing?
No, I don’t fully understand everything about the so-called evolutionary processes, and I don’t have to, nor need to.
I do believe that God created everything just as He said he did… in 6 days. Can I prove it? All I can do is point to evidences of design in the universe that lead to the conclusion there must be a Designer. There are ample books that I’m sure that you aware of, that can direct you to plausible and reasonable explanations that point to a Designer.
Ultimately, my desire is that you would come to know Him personally.
BathTub
December 1, 2009
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Yes the video as is is funny.
We’ve established before that you know next to nothing about what Evolution actually is your sarcastic attempts to ridicule it fall very flat.
“Still, to believe that nothing created everything apart from God, is ridiculous. Has life been replicated yet… out of nothing?”
/facepalm
Sorry what has either line got to do with Evolution?
Answer, Nothing, nothing at all.
Again, you are so sure that Science has something wrong, but you don’t even know what the something is.
Steve Sanchez
December 1, 2009
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Bathtub: We’ve established before that you know next to nothing about what Evolution actually is your sarcastic attempts to ridicule it fall very flat.
“Still, to believe that nothing created everything apart from God, is ridiculous. Has life been replicated yet… out of nothing?”
/facepalm
Sorry what has either line got to do with Evolution?
Me: How did it all start? What is your explanation? Then how did you become you?
BathTub
December 1, 2009
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“How did it all start? What is your explanation?”
Great question, I don’t know, I don’t pretend to know.
However science, though observation and experiment has determined that Monsignor Georges Lemaître’s Primeval Atom Theory (now known as the Big Bang) is the best fit.
The Big Bang only describes the expansion of space time from a compressed state. It is not ‘Nothing Created Everything’.
No one knows what happened before the big bang. It’s as simple as that.
But none of this has anything to do with Evolution.
Cosmogenesis might be a term for it.
In very simple terms the matter from the big bang (Hydrogen & Helium) consolidated to form stars, which through fusion produced denser matter. As stars die this matter is recycled into new solar systems, like ours.
But this still has nothing to do with Evolution.
Once the solar system is place, and the accretion disc forms into the planets surrounding our Sun.
Still nothing to do with Evolution.
On our planet over hundreds of millions of years non-random chemical reactions eventually led to the first self replicator.
This is NOT Evolution. This is Abiogenesis, and while Scientists would be the first to admit they don’t know every step along the way I guarentee they know more about it than you think.
Watch “The Origin of Life – Abiogenesis – Dr. Jack Szostak” on Youtube for one line of experiments on this.
This self replicator replicated itself and through mutations and non-random selection led to the diversity of life on the planet through very well understood processes.
Hey what do you know, that’s Evolution.
“Then how did you become you?”
I became me thanks to my parents.
None of the above has anything do with disputing or proving God.
Do you understand that Evolution is not Atheism?
Do you understand that the definition of Evolution ISN’T “Science I am religiously opposed to accepting”
Steve Sanchez
December 1, 2009
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Sure, I understand that. But surely, you would admit, that most atheists are evolutionists.
There is one thing that I do know without a doubt, and you know what I’m going to write. My explanation for all of this would be considered simplistic and naive, but that’s okay. Here we go:
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
And that’s everything!
I appreciate your detailed explanation, BathTub.
BathTub
December 2, 2009
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“But surely, you would admit, that most atheists are evolutionists.”
Yep absolutely, and most everyone else is too. Christian, Hindu, Jew, etc.
I mean, have you heard of the Clergy Letters Project?
It’s a list of Clergy who have signed a statement that Science (including Evolution) and Religion are compatible.
# Christian Clergy Letter
# (12,109 signatures as of 12/1/09)
# Rabbi Letter
# (461 signatures as of 12/1/09)
# UU Clergy Letter
# (211 signatures as of 12/1/09)
Anyway as the cliché goes correlation is not causation. I’m not an Atheist because I accept science. I grew up steeped in YEC, had all the books, magazine and journal subscriptions, went to Ken Ham lectures, the works, I probably know more YEC stuff than most YEC Christians. Until my late teens when I could research some the stuff for myself and found out how incredibly dishonest they were. it would probably take another 8 years or so before I became an Atheist, and while ‘science’ didn’t kill my belief the dishonesty of so many so called ‘Christians’ certainly did. I honestly don’t think I have ever met a ‘Christian’ who lives like they truly believe God is watching them.
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
And I am sure Georges Lemaître wouldn’t disagree, neither would Francis Collins, or Ken Miller, or Robert Bakker and the multitudes of other scientist Christians. It’s just about the How it was done.
“We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator.”
From the Clergy Letter Project.
ExPatMatt
December 2, 2009
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Steve,
For some reason my comment didn’t go through.
Thanks for the kind words – but you might not like this….
You have confirmed what I thought about you from seeing your ‘interview’ with that Prof. during the Origin into Schools project.
You talk at people, not with people.
We were talking about evolution when you said;
“Still, to believe that nothing created everything apart from God, is ridiculous. Has life been replicated yet… out of nothing?”.
That would be cosmology and abiogenesis; neither of which did I mention at all. I do not think that ‘nothing created everything’ and I do not think that life came from ‘nothing’. So not only have you needlessly introduced two new topics, you’ve also misrepresented (by not bothering to ask) my views on said topics.
At me, not with me.
You go on;
“No, I don’t fully understand everything about the so-called evolutionary processes, and I don’t have to, nor need to”.
You’re right. You don’t have to understand ‘everything’ or even ‘a lot’ about evolutionary theory. But if you’re going to disparage it, don’t you think it would make sense to, at least, get a grasp on the basics?
You may say that you believe in the Bible and you find evolution to be incompatible with the Bible and therefore evolution is false. That’s fine. Really, that is totally fine. But don’t turn around and pretend like you reject evolution because of ‘evidence’ or ‘science’ when you quite clearly know nothing of either.
That’s all.
Regards,
Steve Sanchez
December 2, 2009
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To ExPatMat said: “You may say that you believe in the Bible and you find evolution to be incompatible with the Bible and therefore evolution is false. That’s fine. Really, that is totally fine.”
I agree with that statement.
How do you believe that life began? (See? I’m talking with you now:))
My purpose in talking to (at?) the prof was to deliver the gospel. I know where he stands with evolution, but he may not be aware (or he may not care) where he stands with God.
If you’ve listened to Ray’s teaching, the teaching that he’s famous for, “Hell’s Best Kept Secret” (this is the teaching that caused his ministry to exist; that, and God, of course), you’ll see what my real intent is. It’s concern.
I do appreciate your thoughtful comments, ExPatMat!
ExPatMatt
December 2, 2009
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Steve,
“I agree with that statement”.
So then, will you acknowledge that your rejection of evolution is based, not on a lack of (or contrary) scientific evidence, but rather on your faith in your interpretation of Genesis?
“How do you believe that life began?”.
I don’t know.
Organic compounds are common in nature (and in space), basic chemical reactions can construct amino acids; it is likely that life is the product of natural, chemical reactions.
Or it could have been a god. I don’t know and neither does anyone else at this point.
It was clear that your purpose in talking to the Prof. was to spread the Gospel; it certainly wasn’t to learn his opinions on any given topic or to find some common ground on your relative positions.
I noted that you said in the interview that ‘going a day early’ wasn’t really a lie, more of a lie of omission, which isn’t all that bad. But when you were taking him through the good person test, you pounced on any instance of him telling even the whitest of white lies to convict him as a Liar. What does that make you and the Origin into Schools crew if not Liars for Jesus?
I’ve no problem with you evangelizing, or even the evangelism of Living Waters in general. I think it’s logically flawed in that you have to accept Biblical axioms in order for it to mean anything, but already be a Christian in order to believe the Bible’s accuracy and thus accept those axioms and become a Christian so you can believe the Biblical axioms that will lead you to conversion to Christianity….. my head’s spinning from the circular reasoning!
But be prepared to back up what you say if you’re going to make assertions about science or atheism….
Thanks for taking the time to talk with me.
Regards,
ExPatMatt
December 9, 2009
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Steve,
It’d be cool to hear a reply to my first question in the comment above.
Cheers,

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