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Evangelism Gone Wrong, Pt. 13 : Sometimes They Walk Away—and Laugh!

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In my continuing series on how evangelism can go wrong (Oh! There are so many ways!), I now demonstrate how you can be made a laughing stock as your message is ignored. (This is a continuing series. To start at Part 1, click here.)

Read part 14 here about guys preaching with a severed pig head on a stick…at a Muslim festival!!!

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  1. Not at all like the other lady, I thought she seemed kind of stupid.

  2. Of course according to the Bible, her soul is safe. Believing on Christ is the only work required. These other works like agreeing with your Commandments pitch are optional as Jesus does not require them.

    Do you think if she believes in Jesus, he will forgive her or are there works she must perform, like repentance.

    • There is no salvation without repentance! Christians are not saved BY their good works but are saved to DO good works. It is crucially important to know the difference.

      “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Ephesians 2:8-10)
      Can you dig it?

      • So there are works, got it. See I thought salvation was supposed to be a free gift. Kind of like Jesus said.

      • I disagree with your biblical interpretation. I think it would be more accurate to say God judges you by what you have done, and what you have failed to do. I don’t hazard to say God judges you by your potential to do good works.

        Everyone has the potential to do good works, however everyone has a greater potential to do evil works.

      • Ordo you mean someone who does not repent is not really saved and is just a false convert. If one of you bears false witness, or lusts or hates, that means they did not repent and are hellbound sinners.

        See that would make sense, but what I usualy get is a bunch of dodgy excuses abiut how Christians struggle with sin, but are still saved even though theu sin because they have faith. Wgich would be OK untill they also say “there is no salvation without repentance.”

        So wich is it? Faith alone? Or faith plus repentance.

      • Faith alone.

        Repentance proves you have saving faith.

        Repent and believe the Gospel!

      • There is no salvation without repentance!

        You must not expect that you will be perfect in “repentance” before you are saved. No Christian can be perfect. “Repentance” is a grace. Some people preach it as a condition of salvation. Condition of nonsense! There are no conditions of salvation. God gives the salvation himself…”

        — Charles Spurgeon

      • And I would agree. Repentance is a proof of salvation. “Without holiness, no one will see the Lord.”

      • So you agree with Spurgeon?

        What about your supporters, here, who urge us skeptics to repent. Do you agree with them too?

      • Yep. Repent and believe the Good News.

        That’s what Jesus said.

  3. Wow. You could summarize her testimony like this: “I believe all the parts of the Bible except the ones that make me uncomfortable.”

    • That would describe all Christians. We are often pointing out where Christians ignore the bible. In fact there is a thread going on right now where WEM is pointing out that Steve is ignoring the bible in the Atheist Tuesday thread.

      • Please point out where I ignore it!!!!

      • Well we could start with the exact same example I just called Steve out in the that AT thread, that certainly applies to every single Christian here on this blog.

      • You’re being vague; what exactly are you referring to?

      • Yeah so vague I gave you the exact place to look.

        The conversation around

        1 Peter 3:15
        Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

    • Most christians are like that, you done see much stoning of unruly kids these days, after all.

      • You don’t know much about Scripture, do you?

      • We know plenty, that’s why Steve has to run away from answering questions like…

        “Show where the bible defines the ~613 old testament laws into subgroups and where it says that only certain subgroups apply today.”

  4. Yep. Repent and believe the Good News

    Why? According to Spurgeon, I can get to Heaven without repenting.

  5. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 – talks about stoning children
    there are many OT verse that modern day christian’s ignore and explain away.

  6. Im not sure what point you are trying to make? Did they stone all the unruly children, but failed to record it? Are you suggesting that this may be a valid response for today – seeing as its a OT law? Or is this a law that is not longer revelant, and if so why not?

    • Apparently the law deterred unruly children. I’m sure they would have recorded it as a warning. The Law, it seems, was enough. Of course I don’t advocate stoning. This Law was for Israel.

  7. Matt 5 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    • True. If you are a Jew, you under the entire Law.

      • Note I already have a completely ignored question asking where the bible splits the laws into groups and where it says you only obey the ones you like.

        1 Peter 3:15
        Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

      • If that was what Jesus said, then christians are under it as well – or do you pick and choose from what Jesus said as well as from the OT?

      • Maybe read a few books on Christian apologetics to get these very simple answers. Thanks!

      • Very simple answers that you seem unwilling to give.

      • Another fine example of how the Christians all flee from the discussion over ‘simple answers’.

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